Archive for February, 2010

The Jealousy Excuse, Can We Please Get Real?

Posted in Polyamory, Relationships on February 15th, 2010 by Robyn Trask – 7 Comments

Compersion or Jealousy?

I hear it all the time and everywhere when the subject of Polyamory comes up, “what about jealousy?” or “do poly people get jealous” or the declaration, “I can’t deal with jealousy so I could never be in an open relationship”.  At times these repeated questions and statements are heard so often that many poly people have almost rehearsed speeches to talk to people or reporters about poly and jealousy.

I was reading an article this morning, as is often true the article stated that “jealousy is human nature” and of course this is why polyamory and/or open relationships can’t work.  Jealousy is certainly a part of human nature but if we allowed the fear of the emotion of jealousy stop us from doing certain things, most of us would not have made it through kindergarten.   The truth is that we as human beings can and do experience jealousy.  This started me thinking about the adult avoidance of jealousy and the hypocrisy of many people’s attitudes when it comes to jealousy.  Yes, most human beings deal with jealousy from the time we are small children and we learn both to deal with it and to overcome it.

Jealousy is a strong and often painful emotion.  As children we are told by loving adults to get over it and/or deal with it.  How often do parents say to a young child, “Cindy, don’t be selfish, share your toys with your little brother.”  When our kids experience serious challenge with jealousy, whether it is a new member of the family or sharing toys with the neighbor kids, we as adults try to help them.  We do not tell them to horde their toys or decide not to have another child to save our kid from the emotional pain of jealousy.  In fact the opposite is true, we will put our children into situations we know challenge them in hopes they will learn to deal with the emotions and be a well rounded person.  Most parents do their best to teach their children a balance between boundaries and sharing.  We expect children as young as two or three to deal with this painful emotion and move through it.

The irony is sometimes so astounding to me when I hear someone proclaim that humans just can’t get past jealousy.   Even as adults, we have to learn sometimes to deal with jealousy.  Perhaps our spouse has a demanding job and they love it.  We want them to be happy but we may feel jealous that the job is taking them away.  Maybe your best friend loves to golf and you hate it, then they meet someone who also loves to golf and become close friends leaving you feeling left out.  Human beings may be jealous by nature but they are also intelligent and can work or move through these emotions.

Why is it in our culture that in our romantic sexual relationships we condone acting like the three year old when we feel jealousy?  Jealousy can even be used as a defense for assault.  When a sexual partner strays or cares for someone else, it as if we accept bad behavior because they were jealous.  Yet the pain of possibly losing a friend to golf or a husband to his work can be just as painful.  No one, however, would condone a person vandalizing someone’s car or smashing in their window while they are driving.  This is no different than the child who pushes over his little sister and grabs her toy.  Many would say it is because the stakes are higher but to a two year old that toy is high stakes.

If we expect a two year old to learn and move through jealousy, then how is so hard to imagine that a group of adults have chosen to do the same?  It is not always easy and it can be painful.  You can feel like that two year old who just lost his toy forever as you sit crying and looking over at the brat who has taken your toy.  If we sit with these feelings, don’t judge them and allow ourselves to grow and learn, we can move through it.  This can be made easier when our partner, just like our parents did as children, comfort and reassure us while allowing us the opportunity to grow.

I continue to be baffled by the looks of disbelief when I say many poly people use jealousy as a tool to grow.  That they learn to move through it and that over time it does get easier.  Why is this such a hard concept?  I know that many adults in our world avoid emotional pain at all costs.  Emotions are the water of life and like water, become polluted when stagnant.  Embracing difficult emotions instead of avoiding them keeps the water flowing and life moving forward.  Polyamory can certainly do this but there are many other ways.  Polyamory is just one way and it is not for everyone, but jealousy is a poor excuse for declaring polyamory does not work.  If poly is not your cup of tea then it is ok to own that and say so, you don’t need to explain or make any excuses.

Jealousy is an emotion about insecurity.  It gives us insight into ourselves and information we can use to feel better about who we are.

The next time you hear someone say that poly can never work because of jealousy, ask them if they learned to share their toys with the other kids as a child.  Yes, jealousy exists in polyamorous relationships along with love, understanding, compassion, sharing and compersion.  This is what makes it so worth experiencing for many people; to move through emotions to a place of connection and love and wait for the next wave to crash.

MomLogic.com on Polyamory and Raising Kids

Posted in Loving More Updates, Media Reactions, Polyamory, Relationships on February 11th, 2010 by admin – Be the first to comment

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Robyn Trask of Loving More interviewed, along with several other awesome poly’s, for an article on raising kids in poly families by  Mom Logic.  The article is actually nice.  As is typical many of the comments are scathing.

Excerpt

For some, being polyamorous provides more love and support for the kids than does being in a monogamous household.

Ronda Kaysen: Most nights, Matt Bullen’s 7-year-old son sleeps at home with his mom and dad, except for the nights when he sleeps at his dad’s girlfriend’s house. The arrangement works well because his mom’s boyfriend lives there, too. Actually, his mom’s boyfriend is married to his dad’s girlfriend. Confused? Don’t worry, that’s just par for the course in polyamorist households.

Polyamory — the notion that committed love relationships can involve more than two consenting adults — is a bit like swinging, with one key difference: Love and commitment are  the focus, not sexual hookups. For some, polyamorous relationships involve three or more adults, and no other new partners ever enter the equation. For others, polyamory becomes an even more fluid family dynamic.

Complete article can be found at Mom Logic

Nine Days and Counting

Posted in Polyamory, Relationships on February 10th, 2010 by Robyn Trask – 1 Comment

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Dossie Easton, Reid Mihalko and Robyn Trask

Dossie Easton, Reid Mihalko and Robyn Trask

Programs are being printed, name badges made and boxes shipped.  Excitement and anticipation are building as we are just nine days away from Poly Living 2010, February 19-21, Fort Washington, PA.  Poly Living is a good way to break up the long winter and escape to a place full of ideas, warmth and open hearts.  I always look forward to connecting with the community at Poly Living.  Every year I love connecting with people; people I have known for years and people I am meeting for the first time.  Always I walk away from a conference having made new connections with wonderful people.  It is a great feeling to have the opportunity to meet the amazing people, old and new, who make up this awesome community.

We invite you all to join us for a weekend of fun, learning and friendship.  We have a wonderful array of presentations and presenters all eager to see that you get the most out of Poly Living.   (Poly Living can make a great Valentines surprise)

Leaders and Activists are Getting Together after Poly Living.

Poly Leadership Summit March 2009

Poly Leadership Summit March 2009

Loving More is playing host to the third Polyamory Leadership Summit being organized by Reid Mihalko and the Polyamory Leadership Network, February 21-22, 2010.  Anyone interested in polyamory activism is welcome to join in.

For complete information on joining the Leadership Summit go to 2010 Poly Leadership Summit

I look forward to the love, laughter and community of Poly Living.  Hope to see you there!!!

Poly Living Group Discount

Discount of 10% when three people register together, use coupon code PL103.  Recieve 15% when four or more register together, use coupon code PL104.

Loving More Member’s Community Connections

Posted in Loving More Updates, Polyamory, Relationships on February 4th, 2010 by admin – 2 Comments
Loving More Community Connections

Loving More Community Connections


Loving More is opening up the member are of Loving More Community Connections to the Poly Community for the month of February.  This is our way of saying Happy Valentines to all of you.
We will be announcing several scheduled hosted chats by well known poly people.  We will also be adding video content for people to learn and enjoy.

For many years Loving More members asked for Loving More personals and we launched this site spring 2009.  It is in Beta test and we need to do some refining.   The community is more than a personals but a place to chat, learn and make friends.  The Community Connections was designed to give members an opportunity to meet others in a space dedicated to polyamorous people and relationships.

Watch for Announcement of Hosted 3D Chats

Watch for Announcement of Hosted 3D Chats

It is our hope to foster a place for people in the poly community to connect with others from across the country and the world.

We invite you to join us and watch for the chat annoucements.

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Polyamorists Announce Court Application

Posted in Legal Issues, Polyamory on February 2nd, 2010 by admin – 2 Comments
Supreme Court of Canada

Supreme Court of Canada

This is an important issue for all of us.  The press release was sent to us from  Canadian Polyamory Advocacy Association (CPAA).  You can see the original click here.

VANCOUVER — January 28, 2010 — Members of Canada’s polyamory community have applied to become an intervener in the B.C. government’s challenge of section 293 of the Criminal Code of Canada — Canada’s anti-polygamy law. The application, filed in BC Supreme Court yesterday, is on behalf of the Canadian Polyamory Advocacy Association (CPAA).

Polyamory, sometimes referred to as responsible or ethical non-monogamy, is the practice, desire, or acceptance of having more than one intimate relationship at a time with the consent of everyone involved. Section 293 forbids both polygamy and any kind of conjugal union with more than one person at the same time and as such infringes on people’s ability to practice polyamory if the relationships involve cohabitation.

“We believe that people should be free to practice polyamory free of any criminal liability, and that the Charter of Rights gives Canadians such freedom,” said CPAA legal counsel, John Ince.

It is not appropriate for a law which prohibits loving, committed, consensual relationships to remain on the books, even if it not presently being enforced,” Ince continued.

Newsweek Magazine recently reported that polyamory is a thriving phenomenon in the United States, with over half a million families openly living in relationships that are between multiple consenting partners.1 Polyamory is also a thriving phenomenon in Canada.

The CPAA, whose purpose is to promote legal, social, government, and institutional acceptance and support of polyamory in Canada, has called for people who practice a polyamorous lifestyle to step forward as potential witnesses, particularly if they are cohabiting with multiple partners.

“Trudeau once famously said ‘there is no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation’. Similarly, we believe that there is no place for the state in the kitchens and the front rooms of the nation,” said Zoe Duff, CPAA spokesperson.

“Adult women and men should be able to choose what form of intimate relationship they enter into and with whom they want to share their lives, even if it is more than one person,” Duff continued.

Polyamory contrasts with “patriarchal polygamy” practiced in religious communities such as Bountiful, B.C. where men have the right to marry or live with several women, but women have no right to marry or live with several men. Polyamory, on the other hand, is grounded in gender equality, self-determination, and free choice for all involved.

If the issues at communities such as Bountiful are alleged abuse (for example: the abuse of minors, abuse of authority, and marriages that are under age), the abuses should be prosecuted using existing laws that address such abuses.

The CPAA anticipates that his matter may go to the Supreme Court of Canada.

You can find articles and information by googling Canada Polygamy Ruling and by going to Polyamory and the News.