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		<link>http://www.lovemore.com/mediareact/the-marginalizing-of-polyamory-by-mainstream-media-and-academia/#comment-90</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will send you a PDF of the info pamphlet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will send you a PDF of the info pamphlet.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I appreciated you article and linked to it on some social networking, however I could not find the Polyamory Info/FAQ brochure mentioned at the end of blog. Is this a printable brochure (PDF?) that may be downloaded and printed for hand outs, or are you referring to the online FAQ which, although filled with great information, is far too much for a simple brochure handout? Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciated you article and linked to it on some social networking, however I could not find the Polyamory Info/FAQ brochure mentioned at the end of blog. Is this a printable brochure (PDF?) that may be downloaded and printed for hand outs, or are you referring to the online FAQ which, although filled with great information, is far too much for a simple brochure handout? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, what a great article. I have a couple of friends that are poly and my partner and I are open to the idea.  They all have loving, close, and beautiful relationships.  They trust, care, and act like any monogomous couple I know.  On the other hand, I know several monogomous relationships that have fallen apart because they were not based in trust and affection.  I am not saying that one is better than the other, but that both can be viable options for happiness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a great article. I have a couple of friends that are poly and my partner and I are open to the idea.  They all have loving, close, and beautiful relationships.  They trust, care, and act like any monogomous couple I know.  On the other hand, I know several monogomous relationships that have fallen apart because they were not based in trust and affection.  I am not saying that one is better than the other, but that both can be viable options for happiness.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2010-04-18 &#171; Fountain Pens and Handmade Paper</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2010-04-18 &#171; Fountain Pens and Handmade Paper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Marginalizing of Polyamory by Mainstream Media and Academia People often fear what they do not understand. Polyamory and other open relationships make many people uncomfortable. Many have enough problems making one relationship work while others may have desired or loved more than one person but they denied themselves. Either way I believe that in part open relating is marginalized in the mainstream because it challenges people at their core. When you examine polyamory and swinging closely it is hard to find a reason that it is wrong. These relationships are built on honesty, being real, sharing fantasies, love and commitment and the people involved are often normal happy people. It is easier for people to marginalize open relating because if it is not marginal it might open the door to question monogamy. People might have to question whether they have the kind of relationship they want and that might lead to guilt, shame, jealousy and a myriad of deep emotions most people do not really want to look at. (tags: polyamory relationships monogamy mlf) [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Marginalizing of Polyamory by Mainstream Media and Academia People often fear what they do not understand. Polyamory and other open relationships make many people uncomfortable. Many have enough problems making one relationship work while others may have desired or loved more than one person but they denied themselves. Either way I believe that in part open relating is marginalized in the mainstream because it challenges people at their core. When you examine polyamory and swinging closely it is hard to find a reason that it is wrong. These relationships are built on honesty, being real, sharing fantasies, love and commitment and the people involved are often normal happy people. It is easier for people to marginalize open relating because if it is not marginal it might open the door to question monogamy. People might have to question whether they have the kind of relationship they want and that might lead to guilt, shame, jealousy and a myriad of deep emotions most people do not really want to look at. (tags: polyamory relationships monogamy mlf) [...] </p>
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		<title>By: The Marginalizing of Polyamory by Mainstream Media and Academia &#171; Fountain Pens and Handmade Paper</title>
		<link>http://www.lovemore.com/mediareact/the-marginalizing-of-polyamory-by-mainstream-media-and-academia/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>The Marginalizing of Polyamory by Mainstream Media and Academia &#171; Fountain Pens and Handmade Paper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] It is really up to us, Loving More and the greater polyamory community to educate and speak up especially when experts who are not experts marginalize open relationships; perhaps even writing in to Oprah or Hollywood producers who misrepresent polyamory, swinging and other choices beyond monogamy.  If you hear something on the radio or TV that is misinformation, let us know.  Become aware of what is being said around you and don’t be afraid to speak up or if you can’t safely find someone who can.  Give out the Polyamory Info/FAQ brochure, it is available free.  Let us speak out together and inform the world that open relationships can work and be wonderfully rich, satisfying, deeply intimate and nurturing.   via lovemore.com [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It is really up to us, Loving More and the greater polyamory community to educate and speak up especially when experts who are not experts marginalize open relationships; perhaps even writing in to Oprah or Hollywood producers who misrepresent polyamory, swinging and other choices beyond monogamy.  If you hear something on the radio or TV that is misinformation, let us know.  Become aware of what is being said around you and don’t be afraid to speak up or if you can’t safely find someone who can.  Give out the Polyamory Info/FAQ brochure, it is available free.  Let us speak out together and inform the world that open relationships can work and be wonderfully rich, satisfying, deeply intimate and nurturing.   via lovemore.com [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Rick Lohmeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Lohmeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently attended the Psychotherapy Networker Symposium in Washington, DC, where I worked as a volunteer. I had to good fortune to attend all the workshops I wanted, including two that specifically addressed polyamory. My partner, Christiane, also attended, but did not attend the same workshops.

In one workshop, Dr. Tammy Nelson, a therapist in New York, presented on &quot;The New Monogamy&quot; and gave a very competent talk that was neither pro nor anti polyamory. Tammy&#039;s main point is that therapists have to be aware of the many different relationship styles people are involved in, and it is not for you, the therapist, to judge what is right or wrong about them. You have to meet the clients on their turf and listen to their reality. Poly relationships have the same issues other relationships have and it does not help your clients to deny their reality.

Tammy also mentioned a figure of 1.3% of the population involved in poly, although I don&#039;t know where she got the figure. That&#039;s about 4 million people!

She mentioned that it&#039;s not for her, but she asked if anyone had a child in college, as she does, and told a story about visiting her child at school and being amazed at the attitude toward relationships. Her point is that in the younger generation monogamy is just one option of many.

Dr. Tammy Nelson is a mainstream therapist, sex educator and author and I have tremendous respect for her work and for her intellectual honesty. She did her homework and now feels much more comfortable working with poly folks who seek her services. She does not judge. She listens.

I also had the opportunity to be the room host for Dr. Esther Parel, author of Mating in Captivity, a very thoughtful book on the dilemmas in maintaining the heat in a long term relationship. Esther has been vilified for telling her truth - sometimes an affair is good for a marriage, sometimes not. Her presentation was about counseling people who are dealing with affairs or alternative sexualities and relationships. She had a truly fascinating case study showing how early childhood traumas affected a man in a relationship many years later, and how, by addressing the entirety of his experiences, he and his wife were able to forgive and grow and leave the past behind.

So, two out of two had realistic and helpful approaches toward polyamory, but, alas, they do not represent the mainstream therapist or marriage and family counselor.

My partner, Christiane, a psychotherapist herself, and no stranger to poly, attended a workshop on ethics, an all day event.

One of the scenarios the speaker presented concerned a woman in a long term, but ice cold marriage. She had built a close friendship with a man at work, and it was tending toward physical intimacy. Her special friend jokingly suggested that they stay together in the hotel the next time they were together at a conference; she knew there was more to it than just a joke and was more than intrigued by the prospect. So, she brings it up to her therapist, not a couples therapist, her personal therapist.

The participants were given three choices on the most ethical and useful way to respond: option one, ask the client what that would mean to her, what it says about her marriage, what does the friend offer that the husband does not; option two, if she goes ahead, what is the likely outcome, could she keep it confidential, is it a try-a-new-partner-out affair, or something else; option three, &quot;Are you crazy? How could you possibly even think of cheating on your husband? That is not going to help anything&quot;.

On a show of hands, option three had the overwhelming support of the 60 or so therapists present. In discussions, they could not imagine that there was any option other than go or leave, and certainly not polyamory. Chris asked if that was the best for the kids, if the couple could afford to split up, if there were not other options... The other therapists were incredulous and extremely judgmental - no way!

Well, two out of three is still not bad.

BTW, Last year I was the room host for Dr. Helen Fisher, author of many excellent books and an awesomely brilliant and beautiful woman for whom I hold a torch. I teased her a bit that her books tell us why it is practically inevitable for people to be attracted, powerfully, to someone other than their spouse or life partner, while she states, unequivocally on page 217 of her book, Why We Love, that polyamory doesn&#039;t work. Perhaps it did not work for her, or for a close friend. SIgh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently attended the Psychotherapy Networker Symposium in Washington, DC, where I worked as a volunteer. I had to good fortune to attend all the workshops I wanted, including two that specifically addressed polyamory. My partner, Christiane, also attended, but did not attend the same workshops.</p>
<p>In one workshop, Dr. Tammy Nelson, a therapist in New York, presented on &#8220;The New Monogamy&#8221; and gave a very competent talk that was neither pro nor anti polyamory. Tammy&#8217;s main point is that therapists have to be aware of the many different relationship styles people are involved in, and it is not for you, the therapist, to judge what is right or wrong about them. You have to meet the clients on their turf and listen to their reality. Poly relationships have the same issues other relationships have and it does not help your clients to deny their reality.</p>
<p>Tammy also mentioned a figure of 1.3% of the population involved in poly, although I don&#8217;t know where she got the figure. That&#8217;s about 4 million people!</p>
<p>She mentioned that it&#8217;s not for her, but she asked if anyone had a child in college, as she does, and told a story about visiting her child at school and being amazed at the attitude toward relationships. Her point is that in the younger generation monogamy is just one option of many.</p>
<p>Dr. Tammy Nelson is a mainstream therapist, sex educator and author and I have tremendous respect for her work and for her intellectual honesty. She did her homework and now feels much more comfortable working with poly folks who seek her services. She does not judge. She listens.</p>
<p>I also had the opportunity to be the room host for Dr. Esther Parel, author of Mating in Captivity, a very thoughtful book on the dilemmas in maintaining the heat in a long term relationship. Esther has been vilified for telling her truth &#8211; sometimes an affair is good for a marriage, sometimes not. Her presentation was about counseling people who are dealing with affairs or alternative sexualities and relationships. She had a truly fascinating case study showing how early childhood traumas affected a man in a relationship many years later, and how, by addressing the entirety of his experiences, he and his wife were able to forgive and grow and leave the past behind.</p>
<p>So, two out of two had realistic and helpful approaches toward polyamory, but, alas, they do not represent the mainstream therapist or marriage and family counselor.</p>
<p>My partner, Christiane, a psychotherapist herself, and no stranger to poly, attended a workshop on ethics, an all day event.</p>
<p>One of the scenarios the speaker presented concerned a woman in a long term, but ice cold marriage. She had built a close friendship with a man at work, and it was tending toward physical intimacy. Her special friend jokingly suggested that they stay together in the hotel the next time they were together at a conference; she knew there was more to it than just a joke and was more than intrigued by the prospect. So, she brings it up to her therapist, not a couples therapist, her personal therapist.</p>
<p>The participants were given three choices on the most ethical and useful way to respond: option one, ask the client what that would mean to her, what it says about her marriage, what does the friend offer that the husband does not; option two, if she goes ahead, what is the likely outcome, could she keep it confidential, is it a try-a-new-partner-out affair, or something else; option three, &#8220;Are you crazy? How could you possibly even think of cheating on your husband? That is not going to help anything&#8221;.</p>
<p>On a show of hands, option three had the overwhelming support of the 60 or so therapists present. In discussions, they could not imagine that there was any option other than go or leave, and certainly not polyamory. Chris asked if that was the best for the kids, if the couple could afford to split up, if there were not other options&#8230; The other therapists were incredulous and extremely judgmental &#8211; no way!</p>
<p>Well, two out of three is still not bad.</p>
<p>BTW, Last year I was the room host for Dr. Helen Fisher, author of many excellent books and an awesomely brilliant and beautiful woman for whom I hold a torch. I teased her a bit that her books tell us why it is practically inevitable for people to be attracted, powerfully, to someone other than their spouse or life partner, while she states, unequivocally on page 217 of her book, Why We Love, that polyamory doesn&#8217;t work. Perhaps it did not work for her, or for a close friend. SIgh.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Bauress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Bauress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FEAR is the key to understanding the sceptics. Unconsciously, many will reject ideas, not because they are bad, but because their own upbringing and mindset leads them to fear what is new or challenging. Mainstream mass media do not look in much detail at peripheral ideas in many areas, including economics, business and science, even if they lead to a better understanding of more popular beliefs.
Most people believe they are their own best advisor in matters of the heart and living.
Monogamists can learn a lot about relationships from the lessons of polyamory and those who write about it, live it and those who counsel those who practice it. The best thing is to show those who doubt what benefits there are. Many good ideas take decades to be accepted.
A full exploration of jealousy and what is behind it should be a priority for polyamorists.
Why do monogamists cheat? Keep asking the questions and be slow to provide answers. The best answers are often the ones we discover within ourselves. Henry Bauress]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FEAR is the key to understanding the sceptics. Unconsciously, many will reject ideas, not because they are bad, but because their own upbringing and mindset leads them to fear what is new or challenging. Mainstream mass media do not look in much detail at peripheral ideas in many areas, including economics, business and science, even if they lead to a better understanding of more popular beliefs.<br />
Most people believe they are their own best advisor in matters of the heart and living.<br />
Monogamists can learn a lot about relationships from the lessons of polyamory and those who write about it, live it and those who counsel those who practice it. The best thing is to show those who doubt what benefits there are. Many good ideas take decades to be accepted.<br />
A full exploration of jealousy and what is behind it should be a priority for polyamorists.<br />
Why do monogamists cheat? Keep asking the questions and be slow to provide answers. The best answers are often the ones we discover within ourselves. Henry Bauress</p>
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		<title>By: Randy R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really great, Robyn.  Thanks for this.  You express the frustration that I (and many others) have felt over the years when our heartfelt (and hard worked-for) views and lifestyles are dismissed by the ignorance or fear of others.

My experience of polyamory and open relating has led me to the conclusion that I would never, ever want anything else.  The personal rewards (for me and my partners) are too great, despite the challenges.

May we continue to work together to educate others about how allowing love to flow, and create its own forms, can become a foundation that enables a global healing that can benefit us all.

Peace &amp; Love,

 - Randy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really great, Robyn.  Thanks for this.  You express the frustration that I (and many others) have felt over the years when our heartfelt (and hard worked-for) views and lifestyles are dismissed by the ignorance or fear of others.</p>
<p>My experience of polyamory and open relating has led me to the conclusion that I would never, ever want anything else.  The personal rewards (for me and my partners) are too great, despite the challenges.</p>
<p>May we continue to work together to educate others about how allowing love to flow, and create its own forms, can become a foundation that enables a global healing that can benefit us all.</p>
<p>Peace &amp; Love,</p>
<p> &#8211; Randy</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very well stated, Robyn, and thank you for speaking up!   :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well stated, Robyn, and thank you for speaking up!   <img src='http://www.lovemore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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